Five Miles Per Hour Over The Speed Limit
BY Herschel Smith
5 years, 5 months ago
However, despite the case between Timbs and Indiana making it to the United States Supreme Court last year — and the SCOTUS unanimously ruling with Timbs — the state of Indiana is still trying to argue that even the most petty instances of breaking the law can result in civil asset forfeiture.
According to Reason, that includes a situation involving a vehicle that was stopped for going five miles per hour over the speed limit, if you ask Indiana Solicitor General Thomas Fisher.
“This is the position that we already staked out in the Supreme Court when I was asked by Justice [Stephen] Breyer whether a Bugatti can be forfeited for going over five miles over the speed limit,” Fisher said last week during oral arguments before the Indiana Supreme Court.
“Historically, the answer to that question is yes, and we’re sticking with that position here.”
Ooooo … a lawyer “staked out a position.” So I guess we’re all supposed to genuflect. Even though it’s morally and legally wrong, if he’s staked out the position, well then, it must be enforceable even though the highest court in the land said no.
Because progs like the courts when it suits them, and they ignore the courts when it doesn’t. So put that in your ecumenical pipe and smoke it, Justice Roberts. Or stick it somewhere else. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass what your court said.
On July 8, 2019 at 10:20 pm, Papa said:
What a nanny state!
Crooks.
And what do the officers think who are initiating this? Just following orders? Enforcing “the law”?
On July 9, 2019 at 9:23 am, DAN III said:
ALCON,
Hemp and lead.
It is the ONLY solution to the tyranny of what one calls “government”.
On July 9, 2019 at 10:31 am, ragman said:
Bottom line is they want everything we have, up to and including our lives . They just have to figure out how to get our property and eventually our very selves.
On July 9, 2019 at 10:43 am, Fred said:
I’m sure that this was in the spirit of the RICO laws. What’s that you say? Well, it’s the letter, anyway. They do this in TN as well, right here in the “Bible Belt”. Never vacation in and around the counties of Nashville. They steal your money just like a highwayman of old, only these have the blessing from the State, (hey numskulls it’s a CURSE, learn to read Romans 13 correctly you half retarded fake Christians, could the converse therefor be, such and such? Go-ol-ly, Gomer!). In fact, never come to TN or spend a dime here, ever, until the practice stops. My loyalty is to my King.
“Lay not wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; spoil not his resting place:”
And
“The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net. That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.”*
Need I really make application of these verses? Ugh. CAN YOU READ? It’s almost as if God himself said; Hey, don’t be a highwayman and don’t sanction them and don’t tolerate them, and broader – don’t conspire to lay hold on another man’s stuff, oh wait, that is what He said. That second is from Micah 7, keep reading further, it gets even better, guess who it is that’s coming…what did He do to Jerusalem and Judea…guess who it is that’s coming back? Fools.
*(Anybody who says that the Sanhedrin weren’t Quisling traitors in on the Roman occupation and wealth extraction is a liar. What, exactly, was it that the Apostle Matthew was doing on the side of the road? “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”)
On July 9, 2019 at 11:41 am, Fred said:
Ah, why not? Here’s the whole story. Sorry for length, Mr. Herschel.
Taxation Is Theft. The Holy Bible Explains.
Here in the former free America, there was no crime to speak of, certainly not major violent crime, when all men carried a weapon for the good order and discipline of the nation, and when men were hanged in public. Public hangings are an exemplary way of demonstrating to every nine years old boy exactly what happens when one commits an offense against another. This is an extremely salient teaching tool. Families would come from near and far, bring a lunch, and have their children watch. All boys must know from their youth that authority exists, ultimately resting with God. Interestingly, there is no sense in the Holy Bible of what is found in the modern notion of a communistic ‘debt to society.’ The bible calls for all debtors to make the offended whole, usually through servitude, translated, again by modernists, as slavery. Keep these things in mind next time you hear of the relatively comfortable trappings of today’s prisons and of yuuths run wild.
“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
Pontius Pilot, the Roman Prefect of Judea or close enough, wanted nothing to do with the execution of our LORD Jesus. All he wanted to do was to keep the peace and maintain the status quo. The Romans didn’t want the peoples of the lands that they conquered rising up or rioting. This might have interfered with their primary task, the task of all empires, to maintain their power through force at arms but all have the primary overarching purpose is wealth extraction. Pilot had a job to do, keep the peace between Rome and the complicit and seditious Sanhedrin who had sold out their own people for a piece of the action.
Separately, Jesus whipped the Money Changers with a cat o’ nine tales because the Priests were running a racket in the temples. The Money Changers sold the sacrificial animals at monopoly prices turning God ordained duties into a for profit privilege. Sounding familiar? The Sanhedrin, with the help of the Money Changers, were stealing by perverting the commands of a Holy Christ, clearly a sin. Our LORD was unamused.
The treasonous Sanhedrin supported the Roman occupation because they too wanted Roman held stability, which meant that their own schemes could operate unabated. The Sanhedrin got an army out of the deal, to keep everybody under control without having to pay for it, while they ran the nation. As long as the Romans got what they wanted and the Sanhedrin, the early Talmudist’s, got what they wanted then everybody was happy, well, everybody except the other ninety five percent of the population. Most of this is a pretty basic understanding from which the scene is being set.
Being an infant Christian has nothing to do with the number of years you’ve been a believer, it’s about maturity. If you don’t understand these passages and the context around what’s being discussed as they relate to the, then, coming, death, burial, and resurrection of our King please begin to read your Holy Bible daily and pray without ceasing to Christ Jesus. I know that your church isn’t’ teaching you this stuff, we need you in the fight.
Back to Pilot and the kangaroo trial of Jesus for a moment, the Romans would honor the local custom of releasing a criminal at the Passover, further evidence of a desire to keep the population pacified because why would Romans care about Passover? But assuredly the people, incited by the Jewish leaders, got their circuses. The other criminals were scourged; itself a form of torture, and then publicly crucified, a day’s long gruesome torturing until death which usually concluded with the criminals legs being broken to keep them from pushing themselves up with their nailed legs and feet in order to take breath. There was little crime.
“And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.”
The Apostle Matthew was, very likely, a somewhat well to do man and most definitely a traitor as he too was a Hebrew but taxed his own for the collection of Roman tribute. The tax collectors got wealthy because, like any good protection racket, the Romans didn’t care how much the Tax Collector took; only that he met his quota to the general collection for the regional Prefect, who also took a cut, with presumably other middle men taking a share as well. This is why Tax Collectors in the bible are called sinners, they stole. For another time is how taxation is sin in the first place even in the face Christ saying; “And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.”
All levels were engaged in the extraction of wealth boldly conducting a hierarchical systematic theft of the people’s private property. Some say the Zealots were in the wrong and had no case to make war, more lies. If the Zealots were wrong, why do you celebrate the fourth of July? Fake Christians.
Again the words of our LORD: “And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.”
But what if there were no Caesar? Well, for first time in human history there wasn’t. Whenever you hear this verse in Church your heart sinks a little. There is a reason for that and it’s more than just your rebellious spirit because every man’s heart sinks, telling us that there must be a Natural Law truth that’s been missed, I say hidden willfully. The American Church loves to talk about how we are to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto to God what is God’s. About whose money did Jesus say this? The money being forfeit to a foreign occupying army? Well, it was their money, it was Caesars. Now we’re getting into the Biblical nitty gritty of why the colonies fought and won a war to free themselves from the Caesar of their day. And, who does the American Church, now incorporated under the Internal Revenue Code say to render unto? What if we had no Caesar? What if congress, Us, by our duly elected representatives, coined the money?
The writers of the willfully destroyed Constitution were very well aware of this verse. This is why they wrote that it would be the Congress that shall “…coin money and regulate the value thereof.” Congress is (was) us, our duly appointed, by an electoral method, representatives. It was by design that we would have NO Caesar, and therefore no taxation, no man unto whom we must render the production of our labor. Indeed, only that a man in Christ Jesus with charity of heart give of his own liberality for his fellows for the proper care and health of neighbors and friends among those with whom he held a common bond, remembering to take care of his own house first and then his tribe. And to render unto God that which is His for the primary mission of His church, not the buying of land and programs and daycares, but the planting of churches and the spreading of the Gospel of Christ Jesus to the ends of the earth!
We’ve become so perverted now that American Communists equate taxation to charity as though the heart of a man were never called by God to be made at peace in helping his neighbors. This is more than mere theft; it’s theft of God’s economy, a most egregious sin.
By the outsourcing of the ‘monetary supply’ to the Federal Reserve, which isn’t Federal and doesn’t Reserve anything at all, the US Federal and all governments are now doing the same thing that the traitors and their occupying armies did in the days of antiquity when Christ walked among men. Today they suck your wealth potential at a total combined rate, all in, of fifty percent. They get rich and the debt from their spending, now at usury levels, a sin before Holy God, is pinned on your grandchildren’s grandchildren. It’s a scam. Western Civilization is gone. We’ve been conquered and we are now occupied by treasonous traitors from within and international conquerors from without. If you don’t think so, then you’ve been had like a fool as well.
They are all in on it and laughing at you behind your back, and even in your face just like a Roman occupying centurion. Anytime anybody, from any level of government is talking they only have one single focus; keep the racket afloat. All the while you’re falling for the lies and they’re falling down laughing at you. You’re a slave and YES, you should be riled up. You are considered a wholly owned corporate subsidiary and the property of your debt holders, a servant to your masters; you are a bondman to the overlords, A SLAVE! Yet you were made this way by evil intends, an offense to the Law of God. In Holy Bible terms you are innocent and wrongfully enslaved. Slavery isn’t about skin colour, it’s about owning your labor! Your personal money debts are not helping, they are exacerbating the problem. Don’t be part of the problem. Cut up the self-enslaving cards, pay off your debts, all of them, yes your mortgage included, it is a precept of Holy God.
You were commanded NEVER to let this happen, and this is why your heart sinks when your hireling pastor quotes this verse. You are at variance with the Holy Creator and redeemer of souls from whom all life, freedom, and property flow. Dominion was granted to us, and our vary capacity to even love one another in charity while walking upright as men among men, sovereign, righteous in the promise of an Almighty great and gracious God, loved of Him that set us free by His blood; it’s all been stolen, at gun point, in the largest protection racket ever conceived. Yes, debt robs your capacity to love one another and love God, and it’s the primary cause of divorce, money and money problems.
Since we have no Caesar by design, it would be foolish, in congress, to tax ourselves and then give it back to ourselves and yet here we are. All taxation in America is theft for we are (were) our own Caesar.
Brothers and sisters we were commanded to: “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
On July 9, 2019 at 2:12 pm, Gryphon said:
Taxation is only ‘valid’ if it is Voluntary; the instant it becomes “Enforced” it is Theft, and Immoral. We live in a ‘society’ where the State is God, and must be Worshiped Exclusively, under pain of Death. Yes, that’ll Offend you christians, but Prove me Wrong, tell the ‘government’ that the Bible says Taxation is Evil or Immoral or whatever, and see what Happens. Don’t drop the Soap in the Shower.
Oh, and Fred – Name the ‘Jew’. The modern pharisees Own that ‘federal reserve bank’ and (almost) all other ‘banks’ Worldwide. Some Countries that Don’t have a ‘kosher’ ‘reserve bank’ that is a part of the ‘bank of international settlements’ are Cuba, Syria, North Korea, and Iran. (Funny how they are all Targets of Imperial Aggression, isn’t it). Libya and Iraq can’t comment, they were both Destroyed by the Empire for trying to Sell Oil for Real Money (Gold)
instead of petrodollar $hekel$.
On July 9, 2019 at 3:29 pm, Fred said:
Ok, but instead of mere accusation I’ll say this (I hope Herschel doesn’t get mad for being so very lengthy):
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
To Finish the thread this has pulled, that @Gryphon has picked up on, but will elude the American Church (I find that funny to the point of derision), of what and of who is this verse spoken? Is it out of context? Believers are not to allow Judaizers, those same Sanhedrin, those same who hold up the traditions of men as their god, those same who tell fables, and followed the first century Christians around and where they couldn’t re-enslave them simply killed them, these same that are today’s Talmudist blasphemers of our LORD Christ Jesus, to ensnare us at the hand of that fowler to take us back under bondage, the bondage of those who rejected Christ Jesus, their very own savior, of who it was told in so many ages, by so many men sent of God and by Christ himself that He, this Messias, would come. That’s who. We are commanded of Holy God to never become entangled with Zionists.
And now, generation Z, apparently to become the undertaker of the West is lining up to choose between leftism and rightism, the which, as a Christian, there is no difference, as both have at every turn in the past, and must again kill the followers of Christ.
“Accordingly, a fundamental and necessary premise in any and every study of law must be, first, a recognition of this religious nature of law. Second, it must be recognized that in any culture the source of law is the god of that society. If law has its source in man’s reason, then reason is the god of that society. If the source is an oligarchy, or in a court, senate, or ruler, then that source is the god of that system.”
[…]
“Third, in any society, any change of law is an explicit or implicit change of religion. Nothing more clearly reveals, in fact, the religious change in a society than a legal revolution. Fourth, no disestablishment of religion as such is possible in any society. A church can be disestablished, and a particular religion can be supplanted by another, but the change is simply to another religion.” – R. J. Rushdoony
This is why Hitler killed a million Christians even before he got to the Jews. Yes, I’m calling for a revolution, in Christ is the Revolution. Any tyrant can kill thousands and thousands or millions upon millions, and they all do, oh but to be part of the revolution that has saved a billion souls to everlasting lasting life for the glory and honour of our Holy Creator. Why is the American Church not preaching this? Christianity is the world’s most audacious, disruptive, society changing revolution mankind has ever seen. Are the next generation really to set about to kill each other in a fight to see who can best represent the devil in failed systems that only kill and destroy, to leave another generation to clean up the mess? Why NOT Christ? Was a Christian West that bad? All revolutions of men are phony, a facade of a utopia that can never be. In Christ Jesus are men set free to never be in bondage again.
Christ overthrew the Jews and scattered them to the wind. Christ overthrew Rome. Christ overthrew the Papacy and Christ overthrew England’s empire, although vestiges of all remain. I suspect, at the current rate, Christ will overthrow 6 thousand years of Chinese idol worship and with it, that government. Don’t come under the failed ideology of the current US government or the promises of some man made new beginning and most assuredly don’t come under our Judaizing masters that are submitted to Zionism, the failed American Church. Yes, I went there. It’s a false idol, and regardless of the efforts of the next generation when government is overthrown, it will be overthrown as well.
Oh Holy God, you are the revolution, the one all men seek, the one that actually satisfies the lusts and desires of men that steals not wealth, and horribly, whole generations into destruction, but it doesn’t have to be this way. The next generation has a simple choice; believe on the LORD and be free indeed, or get bulldozed into a trench.
You included, @Gryphon, choose this day who you will serve. Why do you keep hanging around with Christians here? Would you just give up fighting it and seek the Redeemer Holy God already?
On July 9, 2019 at 3:34 pm, Fred said:
“In Christ Jesus are men set free to never be in bondage again.” That should read “…made free…”
On July 10, 2019 at 4:25 pm, Gryphon said:
“You included, @Gryphon, choose this day who you will serve. Why do you keep hanging around with Christians here? Would you just give up fighting it and seek the Redeemer Holy God already?”
Fred – You asking to be Trolled Here? I read your comments with Neutrality towards your Religious Beliefs, for you are often expressing similar Views and Opinions as I have, in regards to Politics, so I don’t hold it against You (or Hershcel either) for giving a Religious Basis for your views.
FWIW, I’m NOT an ‘atheist’, ‘pagan’, ‘satanist’ etc. any more than I am christian, muslim, or “jew”. Like another Famous Scientist said, I See that “God is in the Details” and the Work I have done has made Me intimately familiar with God’s Laws, the Physics of How Everything in this Universe ‘works’. I have No Faith in “religion” which is/are the Creation of Men, and Used by Men for obviously Evil Purposes.
On July 10, 2019 at 10:34 pm, Fred said:
Are you a famous scientist? Just kidding, I know what you meant. I’m certainly glad that you’re not a satanist but I’m also glad that you don’t have faith in religion. Religion has saved exactly zero souls, accept where it brought them to the notion that religion, or a work, doesn’t save anybody and the further realization that Christ saves by faith in Him, and that’s it, there is no religious act, nothing you can DO except believe that Jesus can take your sin and make you free. God is a perfect gentleman. He sends one of us to make the offer and awaits your answer. It’s a choice freely offered by Him and freely taken by those who make the leap. I completely agree that the evidence of His creation is in everything, there most certainly is a created order. The is a higher Law. It’s the leap of faith that makes a man want to talk to this Creator, to know Him. You know His physical laws, these are His laws of making a first acquaintance.
On July 11, 2019 at 3:20 pm, Saml Adams said:
Years ago our little burg was approached by the Feds to assist them in “drug interdiction” since one of our main thoroughfares is a conduit between two largely minority cities. The whole pitch was the cut of the car and cash seizures that the local department could get by stepping up traffic stops or targeting specific cars ID’d by the Feds. Thankfully the chief turned them down, said he was not going to get into the road piracy business.
On July 12, 2019 at 6:37 am, Carl B. said:
Welcome to Mexifornia:
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/07/11/fbi-uncovers-secret-gangs-tattooed-los-angeles-deputies/
“The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has launched a probe into multiple gangs hidden within the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
The Banditos, Spartans, Regulators, and Reapers are literal gangs that exist within the roughly 10,000 members of the Los Angeles law enforcement agency.
The investigation was triggered by allegations of abuse by the Banditos in March.
Each member of the Banditos is tattooed with a skeleton wearing a sombrero, bandolier, and pistol. Allegations against them include using gang tactics to recruit young Latino deputies, and punishing those who reject their advances.”
Coming to a State near you.