This is yet another interesting video from Target Suite.
I do have a personal interest in this issue. I was previously wondering if having a Marlin Model 336 30-30 and Marlin Model 336 in 35 Remington is redundant. I also stumbled across this article in American Hunter magazine.
Which is the more useful cartridge? Of the two, which serves the hunter better? Traditionally, the tubular magazines of the popular lever-rifles restricted the cartridges to using round or flat-point bullets, to avoid the possibility of magazine detonation, should a pointed spitzer bullet hit the primer of the cartridge ahead of it in the magazine. The exception to that rule is Hornady’s LeveRevolution ammo line, which uses a pliable tip on a spitzer bullet to afford a much flatter trajectory in both cartridges. With the traditional loads, the .30-30 will drive its 150- and 170-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 2400 and 2250 fps respectively, while the .35 Remington launches its 180- and 200-grain bullets at 2100 and 2080 fps. Both generate between 1,800 and 1,900 ft.-lbs. of muzzle energy with traditional loads, and the hot-rod LeveRevolution will certainly offer an improvement in ballistic figures, but the advancements are parallel between the two cartridges.
I did find it a bit amusing at about the 6:20 mark. He should have left the stated value of 35% alone without “correction” in the video. Comparison of areas would be done by the square of the radius: (0.358)^2 / (0.308)^2 ≈ 1.35.
Please weigh in with comments. Do readers have a preference for 35 Remington over the 30-30, or vice versa, or none at all? Then again, fine gentlemen of find upbringing have fine weapons, and there shouldn’t be a problem with a collection where both calibers are a part of it.
Our buddy Andy at Practical Accuracy has some real world data for you. I think the case is closed, at least for me.
One corollary point is that the only real expert is you after shooting thousands of rounds down range. Use your own gun, your own tuning, your ammunition, your eyesight, and your optics, and spend time at the range. There are no two pieces of equipment exactly alike.
50-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Nosler’s 50-grain Ballistic Tip is ideal for varmints and predators up to coyote size. Delivering around 10 inches of penetration, it’s even a good choice for tactical applications if intermediate barriers are not an issue. Federal loads the 55-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip in its Tactical Law Enforcement TRU line. This bullet creates massive, but moderately shallow, tissue destruction, ideal for vermin and self-defense applications. Hodgdon lists a maximum load of 28.5 grains of CFE 223 for a 50-grain bullet with a velocity of 3,500 fps. Nosler, however, lists a 29.0-grain maximum load at 3,379 fps. (This goes to show you that data from different sources do not always agree.)
60-grain Nosler Partition This is an excellent bullet for deer and feral hogs, and from a tactical standpoint it performs very well because of its ability to defeat intermediate barriers. In 10-percent ordnance gelatin or Clear Ballistics, you can expect 20 inches of penetration with the bullet’s deformed frontal diameter measuring almost .4 inch. Hodgdon’s maximum recommended charge of 26.7 grains of CFE 223 pushed this bullet to 3,100 fps out of my 22-inch barrel. Precision was not on par with the 50-grain Ballistic Tip, but a five-group average of 1.1 inches is totally sufficient for a load I intend to use inside 200 yards. This bullet does not have a reputation for delivering extreme precision.
70-grain Nosler AccuBond I’ve killed more big-game animals with AccuBonds than any other bullet, mostly because they deliver an ideal balance of penetration and tissue damage. They also only need to impact at about 1,800 fps for measurable bullet upset. Nosler is the only company offering a factory 70-grain AccuBond load for the .223 Rem., but it can be hard to find. In its latest load manual, Nosler does not list CFE 223 for bullets between 70 and 85 grains, but Hodgdon lists a maximum load of 24.7 grains. With this bullet’s BC of .37, it’s still traveling 2,000 fps at 300 yards. This, combined with the precision it delivered, makes it an ideal multi-purpose load. In tactical applications, the bonding helps with intermediate barriers, and you can expect 17 inches of penetration.
Nosler 77-grain Custom Competition Because of its light recoil, ringing steel and punching paper are joyous pursuits with the .223 Rem. For that you need a bullet that’s accurate and will fly reasonably flat. Nosler offers a factory load for the .223 Rem. that uses its 77-grain Custom Competition bullet, but it retails for more than $40 per box of 20. It’s advertised at 2,600 fps, and with Hodgdon’s maximum load of 24.3 grains I got 2,680 fps out of my rifle.
“America’s Rifle” isn’t just modular and easy to shoot and maintain. It’s customizable with ammunition too. I don’t hand load but I’ve found that just about any bullet type he discusses can be found either at your local store or over an Ammoseek search. You can find what you want based on your perceived needs.
What I wish they would do now is work on varying the loads and bullet types for the 6mm ARC. At the moment, Hornady seems to have a lock on that cartridge. I’d like to see Federal and Nosler get into the game.
It’s a well-deserved and fitting end. The board could never disconnect themselves from being Wayne LaPierre sycophants.
Moreover, the NRA always behaved as if its members should act like dogs eating crumbs that fall from the master’s table. They supported the NFA, the GCA, the Hughes Amendment, the AWB, the bump stock ban, red flag laws, and just about everything that infringes on the rights of free men.
I appreciate his down-to-earth approach to giving us his opinions.
Concerning the Henry rifle, it would have been much more impressive for Henry Repeating Arms to have fixed the problem to begin with rather than have a mechanic tell him everything is fine, only to have to respond later like they should after he posted a video of the problems. They didn’t like the bad review – but they should have disliked having a dissatisfied customer much more.
As for the accuracy, I’m glad to see acceptable performance. I had read and heard unfavorable reviews.
Equally large were gun voters’ judicial victories, where we made a clean sweep of NC Supreme Court and NC Court of Appeals races. Thanks to victories by strong constitutional conservatives Richard Dietz and Trey Allen, Republicans will now control the NC Supreme Court by a 5-2 margin – something that will serve North Carolinians well as we continue to struggle over redistricting and our as-yet-unimplemented voter ID law.
Congressional Races
Despite having a partisan, Democrat-led NC Supreme Court throw out and essentially redraw congressional districts, we were still able to send Chuck Edwards to the U.S. House in District 11. Edwards is a strong Second Amendment advocate who has been of considerable service to gun rights supporters in the General Assembly.
NC General Assembly (NCGA) Races
In unofficial results, it appears that gun voters achieved a super-majority in the NC Senate, with 30 seats, and 71 seats in the NC House, just one seat shy of a supermajority. Here too GRNC-PVF was highly successful, winning in 8 of 10 targeted Senate races and 10 of 16 targeted House races.
Well then, it’s time to get busy. So now when another shooting happens, I don’t expect the GOP led Congress to buckle. I expect the concealed handgun permitting process and the requirement to get CLEO approval of handgun purchase permits to be trashed by state law and replaced with constitutional purchase and carry. I don’t expect the courts to roll over when anyone tries to send them gerrymandered redistricting plans. I expect the GOP to vote pro-2A as a complete bloc rather than being splintered off. I don’t expect open carry to be messed with or rescinded.
Is this too much to ask? If so, we can be about our job of replacing you just like we’re going to replace that awful governor.
He has no control over his own dog. He doesn’t rule the dog – the dog rules him. All he could do when it was over is ask is the child is okay.
If the child had been harmed in any way, he should have been held legally liable for any damages or medical bills, and then worse if the child had been killed.
Real men have control over their beasts. Don’t be this pathetic man.
Wildlife encounters are pretty common in the Greater Boston area, from wild turkeys at crosswalks to coyotes in yards. Well-publicized coyote attacks in recent years and an uptick in sightings this year have some people worried. Wildlife biologist Susan McCarthy from the Massachusetts Division of Fisheries and Wildlife joined GBH All Things Considered host Arun Rath to help us understand coyote activity in the area. This transcript has been lightly edited for clarity.
Arun Rath: So first, could you start off by giving us maybe a bit of a coyote reality check? Are we seeing significantly more sightings in encounters than in the past? And does that mean there are more coyotes on the ground in Eastern Massachusetts?
Susan McCarthy: Well, what I can say is that it does seem as though there are more reports of coyotes in suburban and urban environments. But whether or not that means there are more coyotes on the landscape is a great question to ask. And so what we’ve determined is that over the past 10 years, the coyote population in Massachusetts has stabilized. Coyotes are existing at very high densities and they’re in all available habitats throughout the commonwealth of Massachusetts. We wouldn’t say that the coyote population is growing. … We know that’s not true. That’s not the case.
Yea, you go ahead and keep telling yourself that. Mind you, don’t be so confused as to believe that Coyotes are afraid of you when you meet up with them. With a buddy to help him out, this Coyote might have succeeded against that big cat. But the point is that a single Coyote had the steel to go up against a big cat alone, even though he ended up calling it off in the end.
So as you walk your dogs in the evening and carry your cell phone to call 911 (but no sidearm), you tell yourself that Coyotes aren’t more numerous and there is no problem when those six eyes are staring at you from the bush.
Ron Spomer answers some interesting questions. I found it interesting that he recommends a slightly more squaring up against the gun with heavier recoiling firearms. Also, the thumb over the pistol grip part of the stock (rather than around the stock) to prevent breaking the trigger pull badly with a jerking motion seems to have become customary.
Pat does a good job showing the results of the hog kill with his 45-70. My recent hog harvest involved a very clean shot through the neck right behind the ear and he went down instantly. The head (and especially bulging eyes) showed the effects of the high velocity and hydrostatic shock, but I’m not aware that much meat is taken from the neck anyway.
I got four huge shoulders (maybe I’ll use those for pulled pork like Pat), a bunch of ribs, and a lot of backstrap (what you’d find as pork tenderloin at the grocery store). Feral hogs are too lean for bacon.
Now, Pat has opened this door, so he needs to pull this thread for us. He was using the Hornady LeverEvolution. What if he had been using Federal Fusion 300 grain, or a RNFP cartridge? What would the damage have looked like? I’m very interested in an ammunition comparison on this question. Maybe the culprit is the ammunition selection, not the power of the 45-70? Or in other words, perhaps 45-70 is in fact a great hog and deer cartridge, just not this particular brand?
I do agree with Pat that we “owe” the animal an ethical kill. I like his perspective. One could never charge the 45-70 with causing an unethical kill.
Does anyone have good pulled pork recipes – both grill and smoke time and seasoning? Be detailed with your response.
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