Hornady: Internal Ballistics
BY Herschel Smith2 years, 3 months ago
This is a really good and informative discussion.
This is a really good and informative discussion.
Tim at MAC does a comprehensive review of the 460 Rowland.
I would suggest that the comparison of personal defense rounds is irrelevant, and I would have expected it to turn out the way it did (it just disintegrates). On the other hand, the penetrator performs wonderfully.
Both the 460 Rowland web site and Brownells has 460 Rowland conversion kits.
Short of a conversion, using just a new recoil spring in a 1911, I like the 450 SMC. But it’s been a long time since I’ve seen the 450 SMC available at Double Tap. I sent them a note to find out why they stopped producing it, and if they intend to start again. I’ll keep you posted on what I find out.
In a recent conversation, the discussion of rabbit hunting came up. The rabbits are thick this year in our area. The intent is “backyard” hunting for food on several acres. Why not eat the rabbits while teaching your children to forage and harvest what God makes readily available in addition to regular hunting, fishing, chickens, and a large garden?
Hunting in most areas here is legal, but the 22LR is too loud for the desired purpose. A lower profile with the neighbors is a better choice. Early in the investigation of options, any info or background readers might have would be very helpful. The readership here is much more intelligent than a web search.
Below is some preliminary info on “quiet 22,” subsonic, and .22 air rifles. Also, the option of suppression comes to mind, which brings up questions about the law.
CCI’s Quiet .22 load is designed to deliver about 68 decibels (Db) at the shooter’s ear. This is about half the noise generated by high-velocity .22 LR ammunition and only slightly more than normal conversation. Sounds can be painful at around 95 Db and sustained exposure to noise in the 125 Db range, or even one time exposure to levels of 140 Db or higher, can cause permanent damage to hearing. When I was growing up hearing protection was rarely used when shooting and the incessant ringing in my ears is a constant reminder of that mistake.
While subsonic .22 LR ammunition—ammo with a muzzle velocity of less than about 1,100 fps—has been available for a long time, it generally comes in the form of expensive match-grade ammo or target rounds that are only slightly below the speed of sound. This means you either pay more for each shot or the noise reduction is minimal so as not to sacrifice velocity.
The Best Quietest Air Rifles mentions not scaring prey away and avoiding alerting the neighbors.
Looking to hunt vermin, rodents, or squirrels in your backyard? Well, after spending dozens of hours on research, I found and shortlisted some of the quietest air rifles in the market right now. Let’s dive straight into it!
An air rifle in .22 could be a good fit.
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By 500 yards the velocity of a 5.56mm round is about 1400 FPS out of a 20″ barrel (less out of 14.5″ or 16″). The notion that a 55 grain bullet travelling at 1400 FPS could penetrate ballistic plating is so ludicrous that it’s laughable. That’s similar to the muzzle velocity of a 22 LR.
The 5.56mm is great for CQB, but its strong suit doesn’t happen to be ballistic plate penetration at 500 yards.
The woman clearly doesn’t know anything about firearms or ballistics. That’s clearly a gaggle of clowns twirling balls and riding unicycles in circles. It’s just a freak show and circus.
Via WiscoDave.
I love that Dan Wesson Pistol Pack. As best as I can tell, they don’t manufacture this any more, or at least, I can’t find it. If readers know better, weigh in with comments. CZ currently owns Dan Wesson.
This is another great presentation by Paul.
I’ve seen a lot on the 6mm ARC lately, all of it good.
Sort of mixed up results.
Here’s my take with this and all of the other tests I’ve seen. The 45ACP does just fine expanding within the window and accomplishing the correct penetration.
Speeding it up doesn’t necessarily help with JHPs. Stick with 45ACP or +P 45 (or if you wish, +P+ 45ACP) for self defense purposes and shoot JHP.
For hard cast ball like we would need in the bush, that’s where more velocity helps. Always carry +P or +P+ hard ball in the bush. I carry 450 SMC (or at a minimum, Underwood, Double Tap or Buffalo Bore +P+). For shooting 450 SMC, as I’ve discussed before, I had to modify a 1911 by removing the 18# spring and installing a 22# spring. There was no change to the barrel. It will achieve 1120 FPS with a 230 grain bullet. If I intended to shoot 45 Super, I would get a different barrel (or go with 460 Rowland).
In urban and suburban areas, over-penetration is always a concern. So to summarize, I’m not entirely sure why you would choose 45 Super with a JHP style bullet for any scenario.
I could probably watch him dig a ditch and make it interesting. On top of that, I learned something.